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    09 January 2010

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    Jill

    You made a good point when you compared the way people on the autism spectrum speak to tourists struggling to make themselves understood in a foreign language that they grasp only vaguely.
    My French is similar to the speech of my former students: "I want one coffee, if you please. With sugar. No milk. Thank you."
    I'm fluent in English but I sound odd and stilted when I try to speak French.
    I would love to know why an autistic child who has been exposed to a language since birth still is tentative, at best, when it comes to speaking and understanding that language.
    Many of the parents of my former students had their children's hearing tested, supposing they were deaf, but the children could hear perfectly.
    Why, then, do many autistic people never progress beyond stilted robotic speech? Why do many kids like Charlie find it almost painful to be in a group of people who are all talking together?
    In another point, I'm sorry to hear that your world is becoming smaller when you strolling in New York City because Charlie has taken a dislike to walking in crowds or when you can't visit a favorite restaurant because Charlie caused a ruckus there. You and Jim need to get out and enjoy yourselves. I wish you had a reliable helper who could watch Charlie for a few hours so you could get out more.

    Kate

    "An 11-millisecond delay is brief, but it means, for instance, that a child with ASD, on hearing the word 'elephant' is still processing the 'el' sound while other children have moved on. The delays may cascade as a conversation progresses...."

    I think this might be a key to the frustration that Charlie feels? I am sure it is such a struggle to try and process what is being asked/said to him and then to try and respond.

    We have experienced the same frustration with my guy - he interprets something asked/said and then answers with what he thinks is a logical response. The problem is he interpreted the question/statement incorrectly and I get frustrated because his answer makes no sense. Then he gets frustrated because he believes he answered correctly and it goes in a big circle of frustration.

    (This is why I don't homeschool or help with homework - we both would end up jibbering with anger and frustration : )

    autismvox

    @Kate, I think much the same as you describe happens with Charlie, with both his hearing of what others say and his own formation of a response occurring quite "out of sync" with that of many people, and quite to his consternation. We have thought that this sort of the thing, a communication issue, is behind much of his frustration, and the accompanying non-verbal responses.

    @Jill, thank you--I guess the world becomes smaller, but opens out in other ways, though (my optimism showing through) I like to think that this, like much else, shall pass and change. Regarding the restaurants that we're not going to anymore, Jim and I have often felt it was time to move on, but Charlie continues to request the same places repetitively. We've yet to manage the trick of knowing when it's time to move on before Charlie reaches saturation level!

    Laurentius Rex

    Ah tis the univeral brotherhoods onanists again eh?

    They are only scratching a surface there, bloody meg machines don't know the half of it, delays can take days, one of those points of agreement I do have with Donna Williams.

    It does take me days to process auditory input sometimes, which makes life very interesting.

    When my mum used to ask me about my day, I would say ask me again tommorrow or the day after and I might be able to tell you.


    One of these days I will give you the evidence where MEG ECG and FMRI screw up, but I guess if you have patience the mainstream will deliver that to you in delayed fashion, because I think you probably have the greater cognitive delay of all, in not believing our first hand reports without this (expletive deleted) scientific half truth crap which funtions for you as scripture did in the middle ages.

    This is an interesting thing I have come to terms with that I do not even expect to understand things without a considerable delay, and sometimes that delay is years, yes years, now your bloody meg people can't wait that long, the experiments can't be done in the real world so meantime they wank on and gain there plaudits for nothing much at all.


    Elise

    Interetsting how scientists figure out things that we, the parents, already know. Auditory processing is a difficult part of life for our kids. But I have found that as they change and develop the boys auditory processing has gotten better. It's not perfect, but quantifiably better on testing. So maybe that can be happening here too. As Charlie slowly is able to parcel out his world a little easier maybe the storms will become less and less. I hope so. Does he react to his grandmother's condition at all? I know even when my oldest was at his most disabled he had aterrible time of it when his great-grandpa died. Maybe Charlie is upset to see his grandmother and can feel how upset Jim and you are too. I have found that at times, the boys empathy is astoudning. Well jsut a thought as to why he was upset later in the day.

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